From Champions to Leaders

What does it look like when the champions of years past become the leaders of today? Angela Logan, Ph.D., St. Andre Bessette Academic Director of the Master of Nonprofit Administration Program at the Mendoza College of Business, sits down for a fireside chat with Danielle Green ‘99, former ND Women’s Basketball player, U.S. Army Veteran, and Warriors Speak Spokesperson with Wounded Warrior Project, and Shantel Thomas, Ph.D., PCC-S, LSW, former NCAA Woman of the Year for Ohio, President and CEO of A Sound Mind Counseling Service, and Founder of the Center For Healing The Hurt, about a new framework of business leadership and how the discipline and determination that led them to be top level athletes became some of their most invaluable lessons in leadership.

This event continues the ThinkND series Powerful Conversations where Logan and Black women who lead organizations will discuss the importance of race, gender, and faith to the work of leadership. Powerful Conversations is co-sponsored by Mendoza College of Business, the Office of the Provost, the Office of Institutional Transformation, the Notre Dame Initiative on Race and Resilience, Notre Dame Research, and the Black Alumni of Notre Dame.

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What happens when the drive that fueled national titles, battlefield resilience, and academic honors is redirected toward rebuilding lives, organizations, and communities? In this deeply human and emotionally grounded ThinkND conversation, Angela Logan (St. Andre Bessette Academic Director of the Master of Nonprofit Administration Program) sat down with Danielle Green ’99 and Dr. Shantel Thomas for a candid, insightful exploration of what it means to lead not just with excellence, but with purpose.

From the Court and the Battlefield to the Boardroom

Angela Logan opened the session by inviting the audience to consider the long arc of leadership—how traits like discipline, resilience, and commitment migrate from sports and service into the social impact sector. Both guests—former elite athletes and now recognized nonprofit leaders—embody that arc.

Danielle Green, a Notre Dame basketball alum and U.S. Army veteran who lost her dominant arm in Iraq, now speaks for the Wounded Warrior Project, channeling pain into advocacy. Dr. Shantel Thomas, an NCAA Woman of the Year for Ohio and now a licensed clinician, founded the Center for Healing the Hurt, supporting trauma recovery through culturally responsive mental health care. Together, they reflected on the lessons they carry from their years of competition—and the new lessons that came only through suffering, adaptation, and reflection.

Leadership That Starts with Loss

Green spoke with disarming honesty about the moment everything changed—waking up in Walter Reed after her injury. But what followed, she emphasized, was not just physical recovery but a redefinition of self. Losing an arm didn’t mean losing her leadership. “I wasn’t done,” she said, recounting how she built a new sense of mission rooted in service to others navigating their own losses.

Thomas shared a different but equally powerful origin story—how her early work in corrections and clinical care revealed the systemic trauma cycles disproportionately affecting Black communities. Rather than despair, she chose to act. Founding A Sound Mind Counseling and later her nonprofit, she reframed her leadership as a form of justice work—healing not just individuals but systems.

The New Discipline: Leading from the Inside Out

A shared theme emerged across the conversation: the transformation of discipline. Athletic excellence demanded toughness, but true leadership, they agreed, demands emotional fluency—the courage to ask for help, the humility to listen, the resilience to keep showing up. Green noted that authenticity became her most trusted leadership tool, while Thomas described how mental health—so long taboo—is now the foundation of her organizational practice.

Logan, drawing from her own scholarship and lived experience, helped frame this transition not as a loss of strength, but a reorientation of strength. Leadership, in this frame, isn’t about control—it’s about servant presence, about becoming trustworthy in times of uncertainty.

Reimagining Leadership Models

Green and Thomas also critiqued prevailing models of leadership—models too often built around domination, hierarchy, and perfection. What they offered instead were models grounded in recovery, faith, and collective care.

Thomas emphasized that trauma-informed leadership is not a luxury in her line of work—it’s the job. And Green reflected on how, even as a motivational speaker, she often shows up “not at 100%,” but still with purpose. Both resisted the myth of invulnerability that so often accompanies success.

Conclusion: Not Just Winners, But Builders

What makes this conversation linger is how it redefines leadership not as the domain of the undefeated, but of the rebuilders—those who’ve lost, learned, and chosen to lead anyway. Green and Thomas are not simply champions-turned-leaders. They are architects of healing, advocates for those silenced, and practitioners of courage that is neither loud nor polished—but real.

And under Angela Logan’s facilitation, this became more than a story of two remarkable women. It became a meditation on the kind of leadership our world needs—one shaped not by ego, but by empathy; not by control, but by calling.


Resilience is Built, Not Born

Danielle Green and Shantel Thomas made it clear: resilience isn’t a trait you’re gifted—it’s something you build, brick by brick, through injury, injustice, or sheer exhaustion. Whether it’s surviving war wounds or supporting youth through trauma, their stories reframed resilience not as bouncing back, but as pushing forward—turning personal rupture into public service.

Faith as a Daily Discipline

Faith wasn’t framed as a vague moral compass, but as daily practice—anchoring breath prayers, fasting, and spiritual rituals that sustain these leaders in moments of burnout, grief, and decision-making. For Green and Thomas, faith isn’t a private belief system—it’s leadership architecture, shaping how they move through the world.

Self-Care is Strategic, Not Soft

Self-care emerged not as a feel-good afterthought, but as essential infrastructure. Both guests emphasized that leaders can’t serve from an empty tank. Whether it’s early-morning stretching or building breathing space into their routines, they model self-care not as indulgence, but as a disciplined act of stewardship.

Leadership as Collective Ascent

Thomas challenged the lone-genius model of leadership, choosing instead to grow teams and build successors who might one day outshine her. It’s a shift from legacy to lineage—a belief that the point of rising is to take others with you. This “leadership as lift” framework centers equity, sustainability, and humility.

Belonging is Something You Build

Belonging, they emphasized, isn’t a given—it’s forged. Whether rebuilding identity after a life-changing injury or creating new circles of care, Green and Thomas showed that community emerges through risk, empathy, and mutual investment. Belonging is not inherited—it’s earned through openness and repetition.

Reach Back, Move Forward

With reverence for the African concept of Sankofa—retrieving what was lost to move ahead—they reminded us that leadership rooted in memory is both healing and transformative. Whether honoring veterans, remembering elders, or mentoring young people, both women practice a form of leadership that draws its strength from legacy, not ego.


Future of Power in a Changing America:
“Given that demographers estimate that the US will become a majority minority country in 23 years, what will the seat of power look like in the future?”
— Angela Logan [00:00:30 → 00:00:40]

Finding Purpose After Service:
“Just because their mission or purpose ended in the service does not mean they cannot transform themselves and come up with a new purpose and mission in life.”
— Danielle Green [00:04:55 → 00:05:04]

Faith in Times of Crisis:
“I called on the Lord, ’cause I didn’t know who else. I was up there by myself.”
— Danielle Green [00:42:21 → 00:42:33]

Building a Beloved Community:
“How does your work help create a sense of belonging? And in the words of Dr. King, a more beloved community.”
— Angela Logan [00:45:47 → 00:46:05]

The Power of Community and Belonging:
“I think it’s so important for us to open our circles and let our community grow. Every time I meet someone, I think, how can I connect with them?”


LeadershipAngela LoganBlack Alumni of Notre DameDigest152Initiative on Race and ResilienceIntersectionalityLeadershipMendoza College of BusinessOffice of Institutional TransformationOffice Of The ProvostUniversity of Notre Dame

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